{"id":38,"date":"2006-07-21T15:01:50","date_gmt":"2006-07-21T21:01:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.menasoft.com\/blog\/?p=38"},"modified":"2008-01-14T11:10:48","modified_gmt":"2008-01-14T17:10:48","slug":"problems-with-usb-and-motorola-v3m-cell-phone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.menasoft.com\/blog\/?p=38","title":{"rendered":"Problems with USB and Motorola V3m cell phone"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I recently bought a new cell phone. A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.motorola.com\/\">Motorolla<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/direct.motorola.com\/ENS\/web_producthome.asp?Country=USA&amp;language=ENS&amp;productid=30535\">v3m<\/a> from <a href=\"http:\/\/www.verizonwireless.com\/b2c\/GlobalNavControllerServlet\">Verizon<\/a>. It&#8217;s about time. I&#8217;ve felt a little behind the times not having a cool cell phone i could hack. It has NOT at all been a smooth ride so far. Although this is (mostly) a very boring story, I would love to have read it yesterday before spending hours trying to figure this out. hehe.<br \/>\nThe Verizon\/Motorola software for using the USB connection does NOT work out of the box as advertised. I plugged the USB cable into the phone and got a message saying it could not find the driver software for the device.<\/p>\n<p><!--more--><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.menasoft.com\/v3m\/motov3m.jpg\" title=\"motov3m pic\" alt=\"motov3m pic\" \/><br \/>\nFirst off, every USB device I&#8217;ve ever used so far just looks like a storage device by default and needs no drivers. For some reason Motorola chose to be non standard. That&#8217;s another story.<br \/>\nTo make a long story short: after spending many hours roving the net, calling tech support, trying downloaded software.<br \/>\nJust remove the memory card.<br \/>\nSo it must have just been something that Motorola forgot to test. I&#8217;m not real impressed with their QA department.<br \/>\nOnce i removed the memory card (microSD 1G) that i had installed right at the Verizon store, it started working. One very unfortunate aspect of the phone is that its not easy to remove.<\/p>\n<p>I did notice was that the device manager was reporting that it&#8217;s device id was &#8216;USB\\VID_22B8&amp;PID_2A65&#8217; which doesn&#8217;t exist in the INF file it was using to install. Once i removed the memory card it started reporting &#8216;USB\\VID_22B8&amp;PID_2A62&#8217;  which actually was in the INF file. For those that create device drivers that information might actually be useful.<\/p>\n<p>I called Motorola tech support at 800-657-8909 and selected option 1 and spaketh the magic words of CSB#558 such that the support person gave me the URL to download a patch.<br \/>\nI downloaded the <a href=\"http:\/\/promo.motorola.com\/exe\/mtpfix.exe\">http:\/\/promo.motorola.com\/exe\/mtpfix.exe<\/a><br \/>\nI have no idea if that helped at all. I suspect it did not. I think the MTP is only used when actually doing an audio sync with WM10.<br \/>\nOnce the USB driver has installed, you can then put your memory card back in and everything works as it should. You can start up <a href=\"http:\/\/www.microsoft.com\/windows\/windowsmedia\/player\/10\/default.aspx\">WM10<\/a>. (I&#8217;ve heard consistant rumors that WM11 doesnt work) Open the phone and use the menu to set the phone in &#8216;Audio Sync&#8217; mode. WM10 should see the phone and allow you to use the cryptic (IMHO)  WM10 syncing commands. Also as a note: You must leave the phone open. If you close the phone it leaves audio sync mode and WM10 won&#8217;t see it.<\/p>\n<p>Just tried <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bitpim.org\/\">BitPim<\/a>. (0.9.05) Some options work and some dont. I did download my phone book successfully. The most promising feature of BitPim is the ability to get direct access to the phones file system. I&#8217;ve found this featur eunreliable and the file system is a bit of a maze. So this feature is definitely not as freindly as it could be.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve also tried using the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.motov3m.com\/tiki-index.php?page=SEEM\">SEEM<\/a> editor to undo the Verizon crippleware. (no OBEX file transfers, no MP3 ring tones). It works more or less. Its a bit difficult to get working but i tried all the verified codes successfully. I was very careful when doing this since as the docs say, if you do it wrong you can kill your phone.<br \/>\nI&#8217;ll update this message as I learn more.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Data:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>The Audio format supported is only WMA using (i assume) the native WMA encoder.<\/li>\n<li>Video Format is WMV (no surprise)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Cons:<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Very bad installation experience trying to connect the phone to the PC (as listed above)<\/li>\n<li>THE worste MP3 music player interface i&#8217;ve ever seen. Not sure how they could make it less friendly.<\/li>\n<li>Does not look like a storage drive to Windows as all USB connected cameras and  MP3 players I have ever seen do.<\/li>\n<li>The Verizon feature crippling can be fixed. So i wont call that a Con i suppose..<\/li>\n<li>Some static on the MP3\/WMA playback. very slight but noticable.<\/li>\n<li>Volume controls are far too coarse. Lowest setting is too loud with the Verizon headset. Highest setting isnt that loud.<\/li>\n<li>Cant change songs with the phone closed.<\/li>\n<li>The main menu is off by default and there are options only available on the main menu. Irritating but no big deal.<\/li>\n<li>Voice recognition dialing is pretty good, but not great. It doesnt seem to train over time as far as i can see. Most of the voice recognition engines i worked on years ago would train\/learn as they went so that after a while it was well tuned to the speaker.<\/li>\n<li>USB connection is the ONLY connection to the phone. They provide an adapter for a &#8216;normal&#8217; audio jack. However Verizon\/Motorolas version of normal is NOT normal. 1\/8&#8242;(3.5mm) jack is normal, they supply a sub-miniature and odd (to me) 2.5mm jack.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><strong>Conclusion:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Its a nice modern phone. Not bad, but not near the hype. I just can&#8217;t recommend it.<br \/>\n<strong>Links:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.hacktherazr.com\/\">http:\/\/www.hacktherazr.com\/<\/a> &#8211; advanced hacking and seem editing.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/forum.osnn.net\/showthread.php?p=740805#post740805\">http:\/\/forum.osnn.net\/showthread.php?p=740805#post740805<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.motov3m.com\/tiki-index.php\">http:\/\/www.motov3m.com\/tiki-index.php<\/a> &#8211; Users\/hackers reference for the v3m<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I recently bought a new cell phone. A Motorolla v3m from Verizon. It&#8217;s about time. I&#8217;ve felt a little behind the times not having a cool cell phone i could hack. It has NOT at all been a smooth ride so far. 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